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Cargo tank truck of ethanol UN1170

Q&A: Do I have to placard bulk tanks when they’re empty?

The question, November 05, 2020:

Good afternoon,

I have a question about carrying bulk tanks. I recently got stop and was told that I was in violation because I didn’t have my placards showing with flammable material. I told the DOT officer that my bulk tanks were empty and that to my understanding that once you are empty you cant show your placards as flammable anymore. Well, long story short I got a ticket for not showing my placards as flammable even though the totes were empty.

My question is… Is he correct on this?

Thank you,

Daniels Training Services, Inc.

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My reply that same day:

The answer depends on two factors:

  • Are the “bulk tanks” or “totes” you refer to a bulk packaging? I presume they are.
  • Are the bulk tanks / totes empty to the point where they are sufficiently cleaned of residue and purged of vapors to remove any potential hazard per 49 CFR 173.29(b)(2)(ii)? I presume they are not and still contain some residue of the HazMat.

If this situation involves a bulk packaging that still contains the residue of a Class 3 Flammable Liquid (even just vapors), then – unfortunately – the DOT officer is correct in that the packaging must continue to display the placards it was required to display when full. In fact, the entire consignment is subject to full regulation, which requires:

There is an exception from full USDOT regulations for an empty packaging with residue but this exception does not apply to a bulk packaging like your totes.

I hope this helps. Please contact me with any other questions.

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Conclusion:

Probably didn’t help him much since he already had the ticket. But, better to be sure for next time.

Contact me before you or one of your drivers are ticketed by USDOT for a HazMat transportation violation.

Damaged placard with id by rail

Q&A: Is it legal to hand write the UN numbers on a placard with a magic marker?

Another one of the questions I get. This one in December of 2020:

Is it legal to hand write the UN numbers on a black UN placard with a magic marker ?

My reply:

Yes. Maybe.

Per 49 CFR 172.338, if more than one of the identification number markings displayed on placards, orange panels, or white square-on-points is lost, damaged, or destroyed during transportation, the carrier shall replace all missing or damaged identification numbers as soon as practicable.

In such case the numbers may be entered by hand using an indelible marking material as long as it is legible.

So, it can only be done by the carrier (i.e., driver) and can only be done during transportation, i.e., while on the road.

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Multiple Class 8 placards on vehicle

Q&A: Do I placard for a Class 3 Flammable in bulk packaging and 500 lbs of a Class 8 Corrosive in non-bulk?

A follow-up question from a occasional contact (06.13.18):

Daniel, Hope all is doing well.

I have another question that has been bothering me as well.  Hoping you can share some guidance.

Say I have a shipment of UN1993 BULK(ONE TOTE BIN)

I also have a shipment of Corrosive UN1806 non-bulk weighing 500lbs.

No other hazmat on board.  How would this trailer be placarded?

I, myself would say a bulk UN1993 placard and a corrosive placard.

I have had other safety officials advise that the bulk shipment is not included on the aggregate gross weight once its placarded.

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My reply several days later:

I have an answer and it is not what I initially anticipated (I’m glad I did additional research of 49 CFR 172.504(c)).  Please see below.

  • When determining the placarding requirements for a vehicle there are three criteria to consider (other exceptions are available but not applicable to this scenario):
    1. Is it any quantity, any packaging of a HazMat identified in Table 1 at §172.504(e)?  If so, placard for hazard class.
    2. Is it any quantity of HazMat identified in Table 2 at §172.504(e) in a bulk packaging?  If so, placard for hazard class.
    3. Is it any single or multiple HazMat of an aggregate gross weight of 454 kg (1,001 lbs) or more ?  If so, placard for each hazard class.
  • The above criteria are considered independently.  Therefore, the weight of a Table 2 HazMat in a bulk packaging (which requires display of the placard for its hazard class according to #2 of the above) is not counted toward the aggregate gross weight threshold indicated in #3.  Similarly, the weight of a Table 1 HazMat (placards required according to #1 of the above) is not counted toward the aggregate gross weight threshold of #3.
  • Separate from the regulations for the display of placards are those that require the display of the identification number on transport vehicles and freight containers.  A vehicle transporting a bulk packaging (e.g., an intermediate bulk container or tote bin), must display the HazMat’s identification number unless the number is visible on the packaging during transport.

In your scenario the vehicle must display the Class 3 placard with the identification number (1993) – because it is in a bulk packaging – but not the Class 8 placard – because it’s gross aggregate weight (not counting the Class 3 tote) is <454 kg (1,001 lbs).  Of, course, the driver has the option to display the Class 8 placard if they so choose.

This letter of interpretation from USDOT/PHMSA almost exactly represents your scenario:  LOI 02-0043.

I hope this helps.  Please don’t hesitate to contact me with any other questions.

Contact me with any questions you may have about the transportation of hazardous materials by air, highway, vessel, or rail

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And that did it.

The regulations for the display of placards on a vehicle can be simple, but can become more complex when the hazardous materials transported and the types of packagings used increase.  Make certain your placards are correct and are displayed properly.

Q&A: My truck has Corrosive, Combustible Liquid, and Class 9 Miscellaneous. What placards are required?

A question from a recent customer (June 06, 2018):

Daniel,

Hope this finds you well. I am the warehouse manager at <<Company>>. I was wondering if you can clear something up for us. When placarding trucks if we have multiple hazard classes shipping and it is over 1000# we have to placard all the hazard classes correct? If you look at the attachment I believe we should’ve placarded both class 8 & 9. (A shipping paper was attached showing a consignment of more than 2,500 lb of various Class 8 Corrosive Materials, more than 3,000 lbs of a Class 9 Miscellaneous, 220 lb of a Class 3 Combustible Liquid, and some non-hazardous materials).  I have some that believe if one class is over the 1000# that is what gets placarded. Would you be kind enough to help clear this confusion.

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My reply:

Thank you for contacting me.  Based on the available information I have made the following determination.  Please see below.

  • The consignment contains both HazMat & non-HazMat.  The non-HazMat is not counted toward the placarding threshold.
  • The HazMat is of three types:  Class 8 Corrosive, Class 9 Miscellaneous, & Class 3 Combustible Liquid.
  • All are in a non-bulk packaging.
  • 49 CFR 172.504(a) indicates it is necessary to display placards on a vehicle containing any amount of a hazardous material except in the following conditions:
    • A hazardous material identified in Table 2 of the placarding tables at §172.504(e), in a non-bulk packaging, if the total amount of HazMat in the vehicle is less than 454 kg (1,001 lb).
  • Since neither the Class 9 Miscellaneous nor the Class 3 Combustible Liquid in a non-bulk packaging are required to display placards, their respective weight is not counted toward the placarding threshold.
    • This letter of interpretation from USDOT/PHMSA (97-0099) is too old to be available as a link from their website.  However, it indicates that Class 9 Miscellaneous HazMat is not counted toward the placarding threshold:  “Only materials that are covered by Table 2 and that require placarding are included in the aggregate gross weight.”  Though not stated directly, this would apply to Class 3 Combustible Liquids in a non-bulk packaging as well.
    • Read:  Is the Class 9 Placard Required?
    • Read:  USDOT Exception for Combustible Liquid HazMat
  • If the weight of the Class 8 Corrosive is 454 kg (1,001 lbs) or more, then it is necessary to display the Class 8 Corrosive placard on the vehicle.hinged placard
  • Display of the Class 9 Miscellaneous and the Class 3 Combustible Liquid placards on the vehicle are optional – at the discretion of the driver – but not required.

I hope this helps.

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And that did it!

This absolutely helps. Thank you for this info.

Multiple Class 8 placards on vehicle

Q&A: I’m picking up Class 8 Corrosive and Class 9 Miscellaneous (Marine Pollutants). What placards do I need?

Sent May 05, 2018, all in uppercase so I knew he was serious.

TUESDAY I HAVE TO PICK UP 9,000 LBS OF CLASS 8 MATERIALS IN 200 BOXES ON 10 PALLETS PLUS 50 BAGS ON 2 PALLETS AT 1500 LBS OF CLASS 9 MARINE POLLUTANT MATERIALS.
DO I NEED A CORROSIVE PLACARDS WITH THE UN NUMBER ON THEM AND MARINE POLLUTANT PLACARDS FOR MY TRAILER?
I REFUSED THIS LOAD FRIDAY FOR THE LEAKING OF ONE BAG OF THE MARINE POLLUTANTS AND NO HAZMAT DOCUMENTS FOR THE CLASS 8 BOXES.

Daniels Training Services, Inc.

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                    Info@DanielsTraining.com

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My reply the next day:

Thank you for contacting me.  I will answer your question below:

  • You were correct to reject the original consignment due to damaged packaging and lack of hazardous material shipping paper.  Per 49 CFR 177.801:

No person may accept for transportation or transport by motor vehicle a forbidden material or hazardous material that is not prepared in accordance with the requirements of this subchapter.

I hope this helps.  Please don’t hesitate to contact me with any other questions.

That must have done it because I didn’t hear from him after that.

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